{"id":1559,"date":"2013-09-08T23:02:36","date_gmt":"2013-09-08T23:02:36","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/history.lippittclub.org\/?p=1559"},"modified":"2013-11-22T19:42:37","modified_gmt":"2013-11-22T19:42:37","slug":"historical-friday-flashback-splitting-hairs","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lippittclub.org\/history\/?p=1559","title":{"rendered":"Historical Friday Flashback: Lippitt Lines &#8211; Splitting Hairs"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure id=\"attachment_1560\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1560\" style=\"width: 150px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/history.lippittclub.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/fridayflashback4horses.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-thumbnail wp-image-1560\" alt=\"Jim Alexander article\" src=\"https:\/\/history.lippittclub.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/fridayflashback4horses-150x150.jpg\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lippittclub.org\/history\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/fridayflashback4horses-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/lippittclub.org\/history\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/fridayflashback4horses-100x100.jpg 100w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1560\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Jim Alexander article<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Reshare from an earlier Friday Flashback:<\/p>\n<p>Happy Friday! Here is your Friday Flashback! This is an article for those who are wishing to be a serious student of the Lippitt Morgan&#8217;s history, and of thei<span class=\"text_exposed_show\">r family lines. Written in 1985, long-time member Jim Alexander shares some thoughts on some of the lines within the Lippitt strain of Morgan horse:<\/span><\/p>\n<p>LIPPITT LINES &#8211; SPLITTING HAIRS by Jim Alexander<\/p>\n<p>Tell me, if you can, who was really they typiest &#8211; Sealect, Lippitt Rob Roy, or was it John A. Darling? Who had a better temperament &#8211; Ashbrook or Moro? And who had a better front &#8211; Lippitt Sam Twilight or Cornwallis? And who moved better &#8211; Lippitt Ethan Ash or Lippitt Sam? And if we know the answers to these questions concerning these prominent Lippitt Morgan sires, do we wonder about the \u201cwhy\u2019s?\u201d I mean, what is this so-called \u201cNekomia\u201d breeding anyway? Can it be characterized and distinguished from other Lippitt lines? Should it be? Are we splitting hairs to attempt it &#8211; to define, even in general terms, not only what a \u201cNekomia influence\u201d is, but is there such a thing as a \u201cSallie-line influence,\u201d etc.? \u201cBreed the sire to the best line in his dam,\u201d and let it go at that. Then we don\u2019t need more complications, and let\u2019s keep it as simple and as basic as we can. Maybe. But for a few of us, there appears to this day evidence perceivable of the presence of distinct breeding lines within the Lippitt family. And the way for us to go, it seems, is the judicious crossing of these lines wherever and whenever possible &#8211; thereby lowering coefficients of inbreeding each step of the way. In the not too distant future, this discussion will become academic because as our large breeders gradually lose control of the majority of breedings in the Lippitt herd, the rate at which the \u201cblurring\u201d of these lines occurs will continue to accelerate dramatically. For the most part, the lines that I am going to mention in this article will be diluted finally to the point of being barely recognized. However, they are recognizable today, thanks mainly to the stubbornness of some of our most successful, former large breeders. The kind of breeders convinced that they, alone, were breeding the very best stock. There is nothing wrong with an attitude like that, and in fact, it is the kind of attitude that most probably saved the \u201cLippitt Morgan\u201d and a lot of \u201cOld Fashioned Morgans\u201d from extinction.<\/p>\n<p>Anyhow, if we are going to split hairs within the Lippitt Family, where do we start? When the Lippitts of Mr. Knight were dispersed in 1962, two of the breeding lines mentioned were the \u201cNekomia\u201d family and the Sallie \u201cfamily.\u201d Basically, and in order to make it all fit, I have come to regard \u201cNekomia breeding\u201d as that which comes from a combination of the blood of Moro (Welcome x Polly Rogers) and the blood of Bridget (Bob Morgan x Mare by Mountaineer). This would then have to be the deepest and most basic of all Lippitt lines and in fact contributes to the success of some of the others. It would include as some of its most notable contributors Lippitt Miss Nekomia (Lippitt Moro x Nekomia), her full sister Lippitt Gladys Moro, and John A. Darling (Moro x Bridget), for example. It should be noted that John A. Darling has nearly become the \u201cfigurehead\u201d of his own line, a situation not a lot unlike the relationship between Upwey Ben Don and Government breeding. (Both Ben Don\u2019s parents were bred by the Government Farm, but he went on to establish his own line of breeding.)<\/p>\n<p>The Nekomia line is easily the largest and most influential in the Lippitt population. And for very good reasons. This is a very \u201cdoing\u201d bunch, and one has only to touch upon some individuals with strong Nekomia lines to be reminded of their great and strong character &#8211; Dyberry Ethan, Equinox Royalty, Lippitt Miss Nekomia and some of the Dyberry Buddy progeny bred by Harriet Hilts, like High Pastures Eudora. And what about the strong Nekomia influence in 3-time Champion Lippitt Stallion, Stillwater Indigo? In spite of these impressive in-hand wins, owner Lester Welch remains proudest of Indigo\u2019s wins in \u201cdoing\u201d events. Many owners of Lippitts strong in Nekomia breeding are apt to be that way &#8211; like their horses, they want to go out and \u201cdo it.\u201d The bold, aggressive style of some of the Nekomia horses is part of the reason we sought out and bred a very strong Sallie-line mare to a stallion with a heavy Nekomia influence (three times).<\/p>\n<p>The Sallie-line mare that we acquired has a very high coefficient of inbreeding to Lippitt Sallie and she is quite typical of that line. She is well-made, no leg faults, travels low but very square and straight. She is sweet to be around (some call this child-safe), and in general is adored by all who know her. A bonus is her size and we think that she is ideally suited for an Ethan Ash\/Nekomia stallion, such as my friend Lester\u2019s Indigo. Of all the Lippitt farms that have influenced our present-day population, the on that put the most Sallie-line animals on the ground was the farm of Mrs. E.P. Rice. The Twilight and Meredith Lippitts represent some of the strongest concentrations of that blood still available. Mrs. Rice\u2019s acquisition of Lippitt Moro Ashmore resulted in some wonderful breeding crosses that have been the basis for several breeding programs around the country. (Consider just two: Meredith Knight and Meredith Bruce).<\/p>\n<p>Another Lippitt line that exerts influence on today\u2019s population would be the Allen\u2019s Major line. Horses like Ashwood Majestic and Hiker Joy should need little introduction to anyone following modern-day Lippitt breeding. Gerald and Anne Ashby in New York have bred the Allen\u2019s Major blood both intensely and crossed it out with other lines with success. In very general terms, the line\u2019s contributions include type (a lot of them are as good in the front as there is), showiness and great trots. A brief look at 19 year old Ashwood Majestic will serve as a blunt reminder of what a real \u201cold type Morgan\u201d used to be. I have recently seen a video tape of this stallion that could be a lesson for us all on this subject. Amazingly, on the same tape was actual footage (taken from a movie) of Sealect and John A. Darling, in-hand and in motion! The resemblance of Majestic to Sealect was nothing short of incredible.<\/p>\n<p>The fourth line that I consider is still with us is what I call the \u201cOld Vermont\u201d line. Ethan Eldon would be its logical figurehead. This was a very popular line years ago, among Vermonters, and resulted in some of the best Morgans around. Frank Orcutt, father of Dr. \u201cBob\u201d Orcutt, was responsible for producing some of this family\u2019s best individuals on his farm in East Burke, Vermont. In later years, the Orcutts used some of this blood to produce excellent individuals by crossing it with Government breeding. We have Dana Kelley, Harriet Hilts, and Harrison Miles, among a few others, to thank that it survives to this day. In addition to Ethan Eldon, Trilbrook Joel and Nabob Morgan are examples of this \u201cOld Vermont\u201d breeding. Honest and intelligent, members of this line were used in Dana Kelley\u2019s breeding cross with Ethan Ash and John A. Darling breeding. The results have been around for years and have given us some of the best Lippitt Morgans ever. The tremendous intelligence of this line is passed on to us today through, among others, the likes of Royalton Ashline and Royalton Ebenezer. Can anyone who \u201cknows\u201d those two dispute that? Ashline exhibits more traits additionally of the John A. Darling line (where did we think that backside came from?)<\/p>\n<p>The last line that I feel is still exhibiting a strong influence on today\u2019s Lippitts is the Lippitt Ethan Ash line. This issue (of the newsletter) is devoted to him &#8211; and why not? He was one of the best sires of sires that we have ever had in our Lippitt population. He sired stallions that went on themselves to produce outstanding offspring. Consider that he was the sire of Dyberry Ethan\u2019s sire, the sire of Lippitt Moro Ashmore\u2019s sire, and he was the sire of the stallion that sired Royalton Ashline, Royalton Minette, Royalton Minelda, and Ryegate Keziah. Additionally, he sired both Lippitt Duplicate and Dusky Kate! He was, by anyone\u2019s estimation, a great source of beauty in our Lippitt population. My good friend Lester Welch, who knew many, many of the \u201cold ones,\u201d chose to build his own breeding program around Lippitt Ethan Ash. The coefficient of inbreeding to Ethan Ash is, in Lester\u2019s herd, relatively very high. And it is no accident. Everybody likes a pretty horse. Indigo, Hope and Amora, full siblings, (Moro Hill\u2019s Adonis x Natick Moro Independence), are heavy Ethan Ash and Nekomia breeding. How many of us have coveted this bunch? How could they miss?<\/p>\n<p>And so I have described, in *extremely abbreviated form,* what I believe to be some distinguishably different Lippitt lines. Of course, it\u2019s true that the vast majority of animals are mixtures of these lines, to varying degrees &#8211; and maybe this is good news, if we like the animals we are looking at today. And maybe we should stop \u201csplitting hairs.\u201d But tell me, if you can, *who* is the typiest &#8211; Ryegate Moro Magic, Meredith Bruce, Ashwood Majestic or Horton\u2019s VT Standard? And please tell me why. And tell me if you can, why is it that Meredith Tiger moves so well for a compact, typey individual? And is it true that Lippitt Georgiana\u2019s \u201cbabies\u201d were prettier than Lippitt Nancy Moro\u2019s? If so, why?<\/p>\n<p>Enough said, except whatever you do, Breed a Better Lippitt if you can. Do it Your way or do it mine, but for all of us&#8230;..Do it!<\/p>\n<p>And, quite naturally, for me that is, I have even one more thing that bears repeating, and so I will repeat it now. We all have our own personal favorites in this business, a situation which is bound to lead to temptations to (verbally) \u201cput down\u201d stock and even in some cases, the breeders of stock, that we are not fond of. We must learn to practice more vigilance in this area, otherwise we may unwittingly create havoc for all Lippitt breeders. Remember what Linsley said&#8230;.\u201dThere has in some instances been manifested a disposition among persons owning stock of one of these families to endeavor to establish the reputation of their own animals by denying the good qualities of their neighbors. This is a weakness&#8230;.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>(From LCN Vol XII, No. 4, pp 13-16. 1985)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Reshare from an earlier Friday Flashback: Happy Friday! Here is your Friday Flashback! This is an article for those who are wishing to be a serious student of the Lippitt Morgan&#8217;s history, and of their family lines. 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